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{{Info|''See also:'' [[Nompage | '''Recommending XP bonuses for good RP''']] }}
 
{{Info|''See also:'' [[Nompage | '''Recommending XP bonuses for good RP''']] }}
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{{Info|''See also:'' [[Unraisable Stats]] }}
  
 
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|| 2 per dot
 
|| 2 per dot
 
|-
 
|-
−
|| New Merit
+
|| New / Increase Merit
−
|| 3x Rating
+
|| 3x Rating / Difference
 
|-
 
|-
−
|| Buy off Flaw
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|| Buy off / Reduce Flaw
−
|| 2x Rating
+
|| 2x Rating / Difference
 
|}
 
|}
  
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|| [[Arts|New Art]]
 
|| [[Arts|New Art]]
 
|| 7
 
|| 7
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| rowspan="5"|CtD pg 276
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| rowspan="5"|C20 pg 176
 
|-
 
|-
 
|| [[Arts|Raise Existing Art]]
 
|| [[Arts|Raise Existing Art]]
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|-
 
|-
 
|| Glamour
 
|| Glamour
−
|| Current Rating x 2
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|| Current Rating x 3
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
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! Page Number
 
! Page Number
 
|-
 
|-
−
|| New Sliver
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|| [[Arts|New Sliver]]
 
|| 7
 
|| 7
 
| rowspan="4"|Inanimae pg 87
 
| rowspan="4"|Inanimae pg 87
 
|-
 
|-
−
|| Raise Existing Sliver
+
|| [[Arts|Raise Existing Sliver]]
 
|| Favorable: Current Level x 5 <br /> Neutral: Current Level x 6 <br /> Opposed: Current Level x 7
 
|| Favorable: Current Level x 5 <br /> Neutral: Current Level x 6 <br /> Opposed: Current Level x 7
−
|-
 
−
| | New Realm
 
−
|| 5
 
−
|-
 
−
|| Raise Existing Realm
 
−
|| Favorable: Current Level x 3 <br /> Neutral: Current Level x 4 <br /> Opposed: Current Level x 5
 
 
|}
 
|}
  
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
−
! Phyla !! Favorable Slivers !! Opposed Slivers !! Favorable Realms !! Opposed Realms
+
! Phyla !! Favorable Slivers !! Opposed Slivers  
 +
|-
 +
| Glome || Petros || Stratus
 
|-
 
|-
−
| Glome, Kubera || Petros, Verdage, Aquis || Stratus || Earth, Water || Air
+
| Kubera || Verdage || Stratus
 
|-
 
|-
−
| Ondine || Aquis, Stratus || Pyros || Water, Air || Fire
+
| Ondine || Aquis || Pyros
 
|-
 
|-
−
| Paroseme || Stratus, Pyros || Petros, Verdage || Air, Fire || Earth
+
| Paroseme || Stratus || Petros
 
|-
 
|-
−
| Solimond || Pyros, Petros, Verdage || Aquis || Fire, Earth || Water
+
| Solimond || Pyros || Aquis
 
|-
 
|-
−
| Mannikin || none || none || Spirit || none
+
| Mannikin || none || none  
 
|}
 
|}
  
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|| [[Arts|New Wu Tan]]
 
|| [[Arts|New Wu Tan]]
 
|| 8
 
|| 8
−
| rowspan="5"|Land of Eight Million Dreams pg 124
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| rowspan="3"|Land of Eight Million Dreams pg 124
 
|-
 
|-
 
|| [[Arts|Raise Existing Wu Tan]]
 
|| [[Arts|Raise Existing Wu Tan]]
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You can never raise a lore higher than your primary lore, which is determined by your [[Apocalyptic Forms|apocalyptic form]]. (DtF 170) Raising another lore equal to your primary lore is OK.
 
You can never raise a lore higher than your primary lore, which is determined by your [[Apocalyptic Forms|apocalyptic form]]. (DtF 170) Raising another lore equal to your primary lore is OK.
 +
 +
''Self serve only works for the first dot of any lore.  Beyond that you must put in an +xpreq.''
  
 
Active (not prospective) thralls can raise Faith Potential (up to a maximum of 5) for the same XP cost as Faith.
 
Active (not prospective) thralls can raise Faith Potential (up to a maximum of 5) for the same XP cost as Faith.
 +
 +
== Dhampyr ==
 +
{| class="wikitable"
 +
! Trait !! XP Cost !! Page Number
 +
|-
 +
| Passive Joss || 15 (normally free during chargen) || rowspan="5" | Dhampyr 59
 +
|-
 +
| Active Joss || 20 (requires Passive Joss)
 +
|-
 +
| Joss Binding || 20 (requires Active Joss, Meditation 3, and either Enigmas 1 or Occult 1)
 +
|-
 +
| New discipline || 20
 +
|-
 +
| Raise existing discipline || Current * 15 (Shintai requires Age background)
 +
|-
 +
| Courage || Current Rating x 2 (also increases Yang / Yang Chi) || rowspan="2" | Dhampyr 59-60
 +
|-
 +
| Self-Control || Current Rating x 2 (also increases Yin / Yin Chi)
 +
|-
 +
| Age || Same as Generation || House rule
 +
|}
 +
 +
* Humanity aka Path Rating: Raising this stat is the same costs as Western Vampires, and it is not affected by spending XP on Virtues.  If you raise it, it does raise your Joss (dhampyr) pool.
 +
 +
 +
== Hunter ==
 +
{| class="wikitable"
 +
! Trait !! XP Cost !! Page Number
 +
|-
 +
| Conviction || New Rating x 5 || rowspan="5" | HPG 86
 +
|-
 +
| [[Character Generation/Hunter | Primary virtue]] || New Rating x 3
 +
|-
 +
| [[Character Generation/Hunter | Other virtue]] || New Rating x 5
 +
|-
 +
| [[Character Generation/Hunter | New/increase creed edge]] || New Level x 5
 +
|-
 +
| [[Character Generation/Hunter | New/increase non-creed edge]] || New Level x 7
 +
|}
 +
 +
* This replaces trading extra Conviction for virtues.
 +
* Raising edges does not require raising virtues first (that cap only applies during chargen). Level 5 edges are allowed, subject to the prerequisites from HPG 91.
 +
* Gaining your first creed edge at a new level is limited on the '+rules minimum time' scale. (Example, if you're approved as a Judge with Judgment 2, then three months later, you can raise either Judgment or Creed Judgment to 3.)
 +
* Non-creed edges can't be raised higher than your highest creed edge.
  
 
== Mage ==
 
== Mage ==
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|}
 
|}
  
−
House rule: Arete also requires minimum time (same scale as '+rules shifter rank') in lieu of staff-adjudicated Seekings. Grimoires can speed this up.
+
[[Rules_Entries#Arete|House rule:]] Arete also requires minimum time for raising above 3 ('+rules minimum time') in lieu of staff-adjudicated Seekings. Grimoires can speed this up.
  
 
Technocratic specialty spheres:
 
Technocratic specialty spheres:
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Gorgons and fomori can also gain taints to gain powers. (Possessed pg 99)
 
Gorgons and fomori can also gain taints to gain powers. (Possessed pg 99)
  
−
===Ghoul===
+
===Ghoul/Revenant===
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
! Trait !! XP Cost
 
! Trait !! XP Cost
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|}
 
|}
  
−
For this purpose, only a PC vampire counts as a teacher.
+
* For this purpose, only a PC vampire counts as a teacher.
 +
* Raising a discipline above 1 requires "Domitor (background)", see '+rules domitor' for details. This ''does not'' exactly match canon concept or game mechanics, it's intentionally house-ruled to put ghouls with PC/NPC domitors and revenants all on an equal footing.
 +
* Ghouls may learn blood magic, but get no Subrace discounts and are otherwise limited per '+rules ghouls', '+rules buying disciplines', and '+rules multiclass' as usual. (Secondary paths cost the same as primary path, per Fatal Addiction pg 85.)
 +
* Revenants, see '+rules revenants'.
  
 
===Kinfolk===
 
===Kinfolk===
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|| House Rule
 
|| House Rule
 
|}
 
|}
 +
 +
'Homid' and 'general' are in context of the breed you're kin to. If they can only get the gift by swiping, then it costs you 10 XP.
 +
 +
* Gifts that are Camp Exclusive are not eligible for Kinfolk.
 +
* Gifts that require stats Kinfolk cannot purchase (i.e. Primal-Urge) are not eligible for Kinfolk.
 +
 +
'''All Gifts will be approved at staff discretion only'''
  
 
===Kinain===
 
===Kinain===
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| [[Hekau|New hekau]] || 7 || rowspan="4" | MtR 146
 
| [[Hekau|New hekau]] || 7 || rowspan="4" | MtR 146
 
|-
 
|-
−
| [[Hekau|Raise existing favored hekau]] || current rating x 4
+
| [[Hekau|Raise existing favored (i.e. primary) hekau]] || current rating x 4
 
|-
 
|-
 
| [[Hekau|Raise existing other hekau]] || current rating x 6
 
| [[Hekau|Raise existing other hekau]] || current rating x 6
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| Increase existing cascade spell/ritual || difference in levels x 3
 
| Increase existing cascade spell/ritual || difference in levels x 3
 
|}
 
|}
 +
 +
* House rule: Balance also requires minimum time ('+rules minimum time').
 +
* Primary hekau: See [[Character_Generation/Mummy | chargen cheat sheet]]
  
 
== Shifter ==
 
== Shifter ==
 +
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 +
{| class="wikitable"
 +
! Fera breed !! Can swipe gifts? (level x 5)
 +
|-
 +
| Bastet || Yes (auspice: level x 7)
 +
|-
 +
| Corax || Yes
 +
|-
 +
| Kitsune || Yes
 +
|-
 +
| Mokole || Mnesis vs 9 (level 4+: vs 10)
 +
|}
 +
* See '+rules fera' for more details.
 +
* This takes precedence over Hengeyokai 174 and anything else saying otherwise.
 +
</div>
 +
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
! Trait !! XP Cost
 
! Trait !! XP Cost
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|-
 
|-
 
|| Rites
 
|| Rites
−
|| level of rite x 3
+
|| level of rite x 3 ''or'' weeks of study
 +
|| House rule / WtA pg 155
 
|}
 
|}
 +
* Minor Rites cost half of a level one.  Can get 2 for 1 (3xp for 2 rites).
 +
 +
 +
'''Rage''': This is capped at 8.  Raising Rage above 8 requires a +request and is approved only at staff discretion.  It is not recommended for lower ranking Garou to have Rage above 6, as they are more prone to frenzy.
 +
 +
 +
'''Learning rites with time instead of XP''':
 +
* Requires another PC who knows the rite to act as the 'elder'
 +
** This PC can earn renown for teaching
 +
** Learning from a NPC elder is ICly possible, but requires XP instead of time
 +
* Student rolls Intelligence + Rituals vs (10 - Intelligence) once per N weeks (N = rite level) (once per 3 days for a minor rite), must accumulate N+ successes
 +
** Fail: Spend a Willpower to continue (counts toward monthly limit on spending Willpower on jobs)
 +
** Botch: Wait three months (or less with relevant RP at staff discretion) and start over
 +
** Not enough successes: If you do not roll enough successes, then you will spend Y weeks (Y = # of successes short from N) EXTRA to learn the rite (''Example: Level 4 rite, rolled 3 successes, so it will take 5 weeks to learn'')
 +
* Student may only study one rite at a time this way, but may pause one to work on another
 +
 +
<div style="background-color: #fcc; padding: 10px">
 +
Note: You cannot learn from a PC that has been idle for 1 month or more. 
 +
 +
All requests made must be confirmed to staff by the PC that is teaching it.  Requests for confirmation must be replied to within 2 weeks, or it will be denied.  It can be resubmitted later.
 +
</div>
 +
 +
Cubs may learn rites as long as they have enough Rituals knowledge.
  
 
Gurahl: Gifts from a previous auspice count as in-auspice. This includes Rip Van Winkle, but not auspices skipped via Early Maturation.
 
Gurahl: Gifts from a previous auspice count as in-auspice. This includes Rip Van Winkle, but not auspices skipped via Early Maturation.
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|-
 
|-
 
|| [[Disciplines|Raise Existing Clan Discipline]]
 
|| [[Disciplines|Raise Existing Clan Discipline]]
−
|| Rating x 5*
+
|| Current Rating x 5*
 
|-
 
|-
 
|| [[Disciplines|Raise Existing Other Discipline]]
 
|| [[Disciplines|Raise Existing Other Discipline]]
−
|| Rating x 7*
+
|| Current Rating x 7*
 
|-
 
|-
 
|| Virtue
 
|| Virtue
−
|| Rating x 2
+
|| Current Rating x 2
 
|-
 
|-
 
|| Humanity or [[Paths|Path of Enlightenment]]
 
|| Humanity or [[Paths|Path of Enlightenment]]
−
|| Rating x 2
+
|| Current Rating x 2
 
|-
 
|-
 
|| New Path (Thaumaturgy/etc.)*
 
|| New Path (Thaumaturgy/etc.)*
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|-
 
|-
 
|| Raise Existing Secondary Thaumaturgy/etc. Path
 
|| Raise Existing Secondary Thaumaturgy/etc. Path
−
|| Rating x 4
+
|| Current Rating x 4
 
|-
 
|-
 
|| Thaumaturgy/etc. Ritual
 
|| Thaumaturgy/etc. Ritual
 
|| Rating x 3
 
|| Rating x 3
 +
|-
 +
|| New Sorcery Path (14/15 gen only)
 +
|| 20
 +
|-
 +
|| Raise Existing Sorcery Path (14/15 gen only)
 +
|| Current Rating x 7*
 
|}
 
|}
  
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* Other forms of blood magic use the same costs: currently Necromancy, Dur-An-Ki, Koldunic Sorcery, Ahku, Abyss Mysticism.
 
* Other forms of blood magic use the same costs: currently Necromancy, Dur-An-Ki, Koldunic Sorcery, Ahku, Abyss Mysticism.
 
* For this purpose, only a PC vampire counts as a teacher. Use +request to claim the discount. Drinking the teacher's blood is not required (that rule is only in MET and V20).
 
* For this purpose, only a PC vampire counts as a teacher. Use +request to claim the discount. Drinking the teacher's blood is not required (that rule is only in MET and V20).
 +
* Generation: See [[House_Rules/Vampire#Generation]]. This takes precedence over the usual XP cost for backgrounds.
 
* Laibon: Orun and Aye are capped per Ebony Kingdom page 86.
 
* Laibon: Orun and Aye are capped per Ebony Kingdom page 86.
  
 
=== Kuei-jin ===
 
=== Kuei-jin ===
−
Anything not listed here is the same as western vampires.
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Anything not listed here is the same as western vampires. FYI, did you know what's precisely what "the exception which proves the rule" means? You do now.
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
! Trait !! XP Cost
 
! Trait !! XP Cost
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** If you become no longer imbalanced, then this derangement goes away
 
** If you become no longer imbalanced, then this derangement goes away
 
** Opposing pair can't total more than 10 (would require Dharma 6+) (KotE 54)
 
** Opposing pair can't total more than 10 (would require Dharma 6+) (KotE 54)
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** Staff will raise Yin Chi/Yang Chi when Yin or Yang is raised to match.
 
|-
 
|-
 
|| P'o
 
|| P'o
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| Bone Flowers pg XX
 
| Bone Flowers pg XX
 
|}
 
|}
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 +
House rule: Dharma Rating also requires minimum time ('+rules minimum time'), as well as an auspicious occasion and Virtue rolls (as in canon, KotE 52-53).
 +
 +
House rule: Burning Devil Blood Shintai (Devil-Tigers page 65) is interchangeable with regular (Iron Crane) Blood Shintai except for level 2. A single PC can't have both (page 64).
  
 
== Wraith ==
 
== Wraith ==
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|| [[Arcanoi|New Arcanos]]
 
|| [[Arcanoi|New Arcanos]]
 
|| 7
 
|| 7
−
| rowspan="6"|WtO pg 228-231
+
| rowspan="2"|Wraith20 302
 
|-
 
|-
 
|| [[Arcanoi|Raise Existing Arcanos]]
 
|| [[Arcanoi|Raise Existing Arcanos]]
 
|| Current Rating X 3
 
|| Current Rating X 3
−
|-
 
−
|| [[Arcanoi|New Arcanos Basic Ability]]
 
−
|| 4
 
−
|-
 
−
|| [[Arcanoi|Arcanos Basic Ability To lvl 1]]
 
−
|| 3
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
|| Passions
 
|| Passions
 
|| 3 per dot in rating
 
|| 3 per dot in rating
 +
|| WtO 2nd 229
 
|-
 
|-
 
|| Fetters
 
|| Fetters
 
|| 3 per dot in rating
 
|| 3 per dot in rating
 +
|| WtO 2nd 230
 
|-
 
|-
 
|| [[Arcanoi|Alternate art]] (already have <br /> another version of that <br /> Arcanos at that level)
 
|| [[Arcanoi|Alternate art]] (already have <br /> another version of that <br /> Arcanos at that level)
−
|| 1st dot: 1 <br /> 2nd dot: 3 <br /> 3rd dot: 6 <br /> 4th dot: 9 <br /> 5th dot: 12
+
|| 0 to 1: 1 <br /> 1 to 2: 2 <br /> 2 to 3: 3 <br /> 3 to 4: 3 <br /> 4 to 5: 3
−
|| WtO pg 133
+
|| WtO 2nd 133 / House rule <br /> Does not apply to common or initiate arcanoi
 
|-
 
|-
−
|| [[Disciplines|New discipline (Risen)]]
+
|| New Discipline
 
|| 10
 
|| 10
−
| rowspan="2"| WW6302/49
+
| rowspan="2" |
 +
Wraith20 394
 +
* Risen only
 +
* Limited to Potence, Fortitude, and Celerity, and limited to Risen-specific game mechanics
 +
|-
 +
|| Raise Discipline
 +
|| Current Rating X 5
 +
|}
 +
 
 +
Initiate (guild) arcanoi are capped by guild, see [[Arcanoi]] for details and optional discounts.
 +
 
 +
Examples of alternate arcanoi:
 +
* If you have Outrage 2 and Great War Outrage 3, and want to buy Great War Outrage up to 4, it costs 9 XP.
 +
* If you have Outrage 4 and Great War Outrage 3, and want to buy Great War Outrage up to 4, it costs 3 XP.
 +
 
 +
Kinesis (The Great War 121) is an alternate form of Inhabit.
 +
 
 +
House rule: If an alternate arcanoi is identical to your existing one at some levels, then only the differences cost XP. This applies to the following (let staff know if you find others):
 +
{| class="wikitable"
 +
! Alternate arcanos !! Different at level(s)
 
|-
 
|-
−
|| [[Disciplines|Raise existing discipline (Risen)]]
+
| Emerald Legion Fatalism || 2
−
|| Current Rating X 6
 
 
|-
 
|-
 +
| Great War Castigate || 1-2, 4-5
 +
|-
 +
| Hierarchy Argos || 2
 +
|-
 +
| Hierarchy Castigate || 2
 +
|-
 +
| Hierarchy Inhabit || 4, 5
 +
|-
 +
| Hierarchy Lifeweb || 3
 +
|-
 +
| Hierarchy Usury || 5
 
|}
 
|}
 +
 +
House rule: Great War Argos 1 is identical to standard 2nd ed Argos 1 (not lower difficulty).
  
 
=== Shadow ===
 
=== Shadow ===
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|| Thorns
 
|| Thorns
 
|| Original Thorn Cost
 
|| Original Thorn Cost
−
| rowspan="3"|WtO pg 231
+
| rowspan="3"|WtO pg 231 <br /> Shadow's XP = 1/3 PC's XP
 
|-
 
|-
 
|| Personal Angst
 
|| Personal Angst
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|-
 
|-
 
|| Dark Passion
 
|| Dark Passion
−
|| Dark Passion Rating X 2
+
|| Current Rating X 2
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
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! Page Number
 
! Page Number
 
|-
 
|-
−
| New Horror || 15 || rowspan="3" | Orpheus 203
+
| New [[Horrors | Horror]] || 15 || rowspan="3" | Orpheus 203
 
|-
 
|-
 
| Vitality || Current Rating x 3
 
| Vitality || Current Rating x 3

Latest revision as of 16:16, 16 September 2024

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General

Trait XP Cost
Attribute Current Rating x 4
New Ability (primary or secondary) 3
Raise Existing Ability (primary or secondary) Current Rating x 2
Willpower Current Rating
New Background (other than Totem/etc.) 3
Raise Existing Background (other than Totem/etc.) Current Rating x 2
Totem / Jamak / Nushi / Orisha Bond 2 per dot
New / Increase Merit 3x Rating / Difference
Buy off / Reduce Flaw 2x Rating / Difference

All XP amounts are taken from Revised Core books for each sphere, except the Merit and Flaw thing. Note that not all merits may be approved for post-Chargen purchase; this is on a case by case basis.

Bygone

Trait XP Cost Page Number
New power 1 XP per dot The Bygone Bestiary pg 102
Increased power 1 XP per added dot

Changeling

Trait XP Cost Page Number
New Art 7 C20 pg 176
Raise Existing Art Current Level x 4
New Realm 5
Raise Existing Realm Current Level x 3
Glamour Current Rating x 3

Inanimae

Trait XP Cost Page Number
New Sliver 7 Inanimae pg 87
Raise Existing Sliver Favorable: Current Level x 5
Neutral: Current Level x 6
Opposed: Current Level x 7
Phyla Favorable Slivers Opposed Slivers
Glome Petros Stratus
Kubera Verdage Stratus
Ondine Aquis Pyros
Paroseme Stratus Petros
Solimond Pyros Aquis
Mannikin none none

Hsien

Trait XP Cost Page Number
New Wu Tan 8 Land of Eight Million Dreams pg 124
Raise Existing Wu Tan Current Level x 7
Yin Chi / Yang Chi / Tao Earn ten temporary points via roleplay

Hsien can only buy or raise Nei Tan while their permanent Chi is balanced (Yin = Yang).

Demon

Trait XP Cost Page Number
Faith Current Rating x 7 DtF pg 164
Torment 10 to lower by 1
New Lore 7 (10 if from a House other than the character's)
Raise Existing Lore Current Rating x 5
Raise Virtue Current Rating x 2

You can never raise a lore higher than your primary lore, which is determined by your apocalyptic form. (DtF 170) Raising another lore equal to your primary lore is OK.

Self serve only works for the first dot of any lore. Beyond that you must put in an +xpreq.

Active (not prospective) thralls can raise Faith Potential (up to a maximum of 5) for the same XP cost as Faith.

Dhampyr

Trait XP Cost Page Number
Passive Joss 15 (normally free during chargen) Dhampyr 59
Active Joss 20 (requires Passive Joss)
Joss Binding 20 (requires Active Joss, Meditation 3, and either Enigmas 1 or Occult 1)
New discipline 20
Raise existing discipline Current * 15 (Shintai requires Age background)
Courage Current Rating x 2 (also increases Yang / Yang Chi) Dhampyr 59-60
Self-Control Current Rating x 2 (also increases Yin / Yin Chi)
Age Same as Generation House rule
  • Humanity aka Path Rating: Raising this stat is the same costs as Western Vampires, and it is not affected by spending XP on Virtues. If you raise it, it does raise your Joss (dhampyr) pool.


Hunter

Trait XP Cost Page Number
Conviction New Rating x 5 HPG 86
Primary virtue New Rating x 3
Other virtue New Rating x 5
New/increase creed edge New Level x 5
New/increase non-creed edge New Level x 7
  • This replaces trading extra Conviction for virtues.
  • Raising edges does not require raising virtues first (that cap only applies during chargen). Level 5 edges are allowed, subject to the prerequisites from HPG 91.
  • Gaining your first creed edge at a new level is limited on the '+rules minimum time' scale. (Example, if you're approved as a Judge with Judgment 2, then three months later, you can raise either Judgment or Creed Judgment to 3.)
  • Non-creed edges can't be raised higher than your highest creed edge.

Mage

Trait XP Cost Page Number
Arete Current Rating x 8 MtA pg 131
House Rule: based on current instead of new
Raise Specialty Sphere Current Rating x 7
New Sphere 10
Raise Other Existing Sphere Current Rating x 8

House rule: Arete also requires minimum time for raising above 3 ('+rules minimum time') in lieu of staff-adjudicated Seekings. Grimoires can speed this up.

Technocratic specialty spheres:

  • Iteration X - Forces
  • New World Order - Mind
  • Progenitors - Life
  • Syndicate - Entropy
  • Void Engineers - Dimensional Science

MtA pg 90: Many Orphans, especially Hollow Ones, have no specialty sphere (but some do)

Mortal+

Sorcerer/psychic

Trait XP Cost Reference
New Numina 7 Sorcerer - pg 45
Raise Existing Numina Current Rating x 7
Ritual level of ritual x 3 House Rule

Possessed

Trait XP Cost Temp Autonomy Cost Reference
Permanent Autonomy Current Rating x 8 n/a Possessed - pg 100
Buy Off / Lower Taint Kami only:
Taint level (difference if lowered) x 5 		Fomori only:
Taint level (difference if lowered) x 2 		Possessed - pg 100 / House Rule
New / Raise Power Kami only:
Power level (difference if raised) x 5 		Fomori/Drones/Gorgons only:
Power level (difference if raised) x 2 		Possessed - pg 100 / House Rule

Gorgons and fomori can also gain taints to gain powers. (Possessed pg 99)

Ghoul/Revenant

Trait XP Cost Reference
New Discipline

Use the first rule that applies.

  • Common or in clan:
    • Subrace Ghoul: 15
    • Other subrace with Ghoul merit: 20
  • Proprietary:
    • No teacher: 30
    • Subrace Ghoul: 15
    • Other subrace with Ghoul merit: 20
  • Restricted:
    • No teacher: Not allowed
    • Subrace Ghoul: 15
    • Other subrace with Ghoul merit: 20
 House Rule
Raise Existing Discipline (Subrace Ghoul)
  • In clan: Current Rating x 7
  • Out of clan: Current Rating x 10
 House Rule
Raise Existing Discipline (other subrace with Ghoul merit)
  • In-clan: Current Rating x 15
  • Out-of-clan: Current Rating x 25
 Fatal Addiction - pg 85
  • For this purpose, only a PC vampire counts as a teacher.
  • Raising a discipline above 1 requires "Domitor (background)", see '+rules domitor' for details. This does not exactly match canon concept or game mechanics, it's intentionally house-ruled to put ghouls with PC/NPC domitors and revenants all on an equal footing.
  • Ghouls may learn blood magic, but get no Subrace discounts and are otherwise limited per '+rules ghouls', '+rules buying disciplines', and '+rules multiclass' as usual. (Secondary paths cost the same as primary path, per Fatal Addiction pg 85.)
  • Revenants, see '+rules revenants'.

Kinfolk

Trait XP Cost Reference
Gift (Subrace Kinfolk)
  • Kinfolk-specific: 3
  • Level 1 homid, in-tribe, or general (for Fera): 7
  • Other level 1: 10
  • Gifts requiring Gnosis: Must have the Gnosis merit
  • Gifts requiring Rage: Not available
 House Rule

'Homid' and 'general' are in context of the breed you're kin to. If they can only get the gift by swiping, then it costs you 10 XP.

  • Gifts that are Camp Exclusive are not eligible for Kinfolk.
  • Gifts that require stats Kinfolk cannot purchase (i.e. Primal-Urge) are not eligible for Kinfolk.

All Gifts will be approved at staff discretion only

Kinain

Same as Changeling

Mummy

Trait XP Cost Page Number
New hekau 7 MtR 146
Raise existing favored (i.e. primary) hekau current rating x 4
Raise existing other hekau current rating x 6
Balance current rating x 7
New spell/ritual level x 3 House rule
Increase existing cascade spell/ritual difference in levels x 3
  • House rule: Balance also requires minimum time ('+rules minimum time').
  • Primary hekau: See chargen cheat sheet

Shifter

Fera breed Can swipe gifts? (level x 5)
Bastet Yes (auspice: level x 7)
Corax Yes
Kitsune Yes
Mokole Mnesis vs 9 (level 4+: vs 10)
  • See '+rules fera' for more details.
  • This takes precedence over Hengeyokai 174 and anything else saying otherwise.
Trait XP Cost Page Number
Gift level of gift x 3 WtA pg 181
Gift from other Breed/Auspice/Tribe level of gift x 5
Rage current rating
Gnosis current rating x 2
Rites level of rite x 3 or weeks of study House rule / WtA pg 155
  • Minor Rites cost half of a level one. Can get 2 for 1 (3xp for 2 rites).


Rage: This is capped at 8. Raising Rage above 8 requires a +request and is approved only at staff discretion. It is not recommended for lower ranking Garou to have Rage above 6, as they are more prone to frenzy.


Learning rites with time instead of XP:

  • Requires another PC who knows the rite to act as the 'elder'
    • This PC can earn renown for teaching
    • Learning from a NPC elder is ICly possible, but requires XP instead of time
  • Student rolls Intelligence + Rituals vs (10 - Intelligence) once per N weeks (N = rite level) (once per 3 days for a minor rite), must accumulate N+ successes
    • Fail: Spend a Willpower to continue (counts toward monthly limit on spending Willpower on jobs)
    • Botch: Wait three months (or less with relevant RP at staff discretion) and start over
    • Not enough successes: If you do not roll enough successes, then you will spend Y weeks (Y = # of successes short from N) EXTRA to learn the rite (Example: Level 4 rite, rolled 3 successes, so it will take 5 weeks to learn)
  • Student may only study one rite at a time this way, but may pause one to work on another

Note: You cannot learn from a PC that has been idle for 1 month or more.

All requests made must be confirmed to staff by the PC that is teaching it. Requests for confirmation must be replied to within 2 weeks, or it will be denied. It can be resubmitted later.

Cubs may learn rites as long as they have enough Rituals knowledge.

Gurahl: Gifts from a previous auspice count as in-auspice. This includes Rip Van Winkle, but not auspices skipped via Early Maturation.

Vampire

Trait XP Cost Page Number
New Discipline
  • Common or in clan: 10
  • Proprietary and out of clan:
    • Teacher: 10
    • No teacher: 20
  • Restricted and out of clan: Not allowed
 VtM pg 143
Raise Existing Clan Discipline Current Rating x 5*
Raise Existing Other Discipline Current Rating x 7*
Virtue Current Rating x 2
Humanity or Path of Enlightenment Current Rating x 2
New Path (Thaumaturgy/etc.)* 7
Raise Existing Secondary Thaumaturgy/etc. Path Current Rating x 4
Thaumaturgy/etc. Ritual Rating x 3
New Sorcery Path (14/15 gen only) 20
Raise Existing Sorcery Path (14/15 gen only) Current Rating x 7*
  • Caitiff have no clan-based disciplines, just as they have no clan. For them the cost of raising Disciplines is the current rating x 6 for all Disciplines.
  • Other forms of blood magic use the same costs: currently Necromancy, Dur-An-Ki, Koldunic Sorcery, Ahku, Abyss Mysticism.
  • For this purpose, only a PC vampire counts as a teacher. Use +request to claim the discount. Drinking the teacher's blood is not required (that rule is only in MET and V20).
  • Generation: See House_Rules/Vampire#Generation. This takes precedence over the usual XP cost for backgrounds.
  • Laibon: Orun and Aye are capped per Ebony Kingdom page 86.

Kuei-jin

Anything not listed here is the same as western vampires. FYI, did you know what's precisely what "the exception which proves the rule" means? You do now.

Trait XP Cost Page Number
New Discipline 10 KotE pg 142
Raise Existing Discipline Current Rating x 8
Yin, Yang, Hun
  • Current Rating x 3
  • Current Rating x 2 if imbalanced (3+ points higher than its opposite)
    • Yin and Yang are opposites
    • Hun and P'o are opposites
    • Discount only applies when raising the higher one and making yourself more imbalanced
    • If you become Yin or Yang imbalanced, then you need to gain a derangement (KotE 139)
    • If you become no longer imbalanced, then this derangement goes away
    • Opposing pair can't total more than 10 (would require Dharma 6+) (KotE 54)
    • Staff will raise Yin Chi/Yang Chi when Yin or Yang is raised to match.
P'o Current Rating
Rite Rating x 3
Dharma Current Rating x 4 House rule
Necromancy Ritual Rating+1 x 3
  • Requires Occult 3, Rituals 4, being Yin-aspected AND a PC teacher
 Bone Flowers pg XX

House rule: Dharma Rating also requires minimum time ('+rules minimum time'), as well as an auspicious occasion and Virtue rolls (as in canon, KotE 52-53).

House rule: Burning Devil Blood Shintai (Devil-Tigers page 65) is interchangeable with regular (Iron Crane) Blood Shintai except for level 2. A single PC can't have both (page 64).

Wraith

Trait XP Cost Page Number
New Arcanos 7 Wraith20 302
Raise Existing Arcanos Current Rating X 3
Passions 3 per dot in rating WtO 2nd 229
Fetters 3 per dot in rating WtO 2nd 230
Alternate art (already have
another version of that
Arcanos at that level) 		0 to 1: 1
1 to 2: 2
2 to 3: 3
3 to 4: 3
4 to 5: 3 		WtO 2nd 133 / House rule
Does not apply to common or initiate arcanoi
New Discipline 10

Wraith20 394

  • Risen only
  • Limited to Potence, Fortitude, and Celerity, and limited to Risen-specific game mechanics
Raise Discipline Current Rating X 5

Initiate (guild) arcanoi are capped by guild, see Arcanoi for details and optional discounts.

Examples of alternate arcanoi:

  • If you have Outrage 2 and Great War Outrage 3, and want to buy Great War Outrage up to 4, it costs 9 XP.
  • If you have Outrage 4 and Great War Outrage 3, and want to buy Great War Outrage up to 4, it costs 3 XP.

Kinesis (The Great War 121) is an alternate form of Inhabit.

House rule: If an alternate arcanoi is identical to your existing one at some levels, then only the differences cost XP. This applies to the following (let staff know if you find others):

Alternate arcanos Different at level(s)
Emerald Legion Fatalism 2
Great War Castigate 1-2, 4-5
Hierarchy Argos 2
Hierarchy Castigate 2
Hierarchy Inhabit 4, 5
Hierarchy Lifeweb 3
Hierarchy Usury 5

House rule: Great War Argos 1 is identical to standard 2nd ed Argos 1 (not lower difficulty).

Shadow

Trait XP Cost Page Number
Thorns Original Thorn Cost WtO pg 231
Shadow's XP = 1/3 PC's XP
Personal Angst Current Rating
Dark Passion Current Rating X 2

Orpheus

Trait XP Cost Page Number
New Horror 15 Orpheus 203
Vitality Current Rating x 3
Change from Sleeper to Skimmer 6
Vitality Emblem 20 minus Vitality End Game 87
prerequisite: Vitality 6+

Other stats are house-ruled to cost the same as other races.

Emblem of Protection auto-manifests when Maelstrom winds arise, even if you haven't bought it. You must buy it in order to use it at any other time.

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