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Apocalyptic Form
- "Apocalyptic form", "revelatory form", and "visage" are all the same thing.
- Even if you only manifest one effect, you still count as taking your apocalyptic form.
- While in your apocalyptic form, physical and mental merits/flaws do not apply. (DPG 75) We interpret "fully" as "to any degree whatsoever".
- Custom apocalyptic forms:
- Demons can replace up to two low-torment and two high-torment effects of their apocalyptic form.
- Costs are per DPG chapter 4. (Some are clearly different names for the same thing. Shroud of Flames and Ink Cloud don't appear to be in DPG at all, they're both rated at 2.)
- XP cost is (10*difference) XP if the new effect is more points, free if it's same or fewer. This overrides DPG page 124. This is not available during chargen.
- Multiple form powers that improve the same stat cannot be stacked.
- Multiple form powers that improve two stats used together (probably attribute+ability) can be stacked.
Faith
- This refers to Demon Faith (Faith potential for non-demons), not True Faith.
- True Believers start with Faith:3: Akashic Brotherhood, Celestial Chorister, Nephandi, Euthanatos, True Faith merit
- Thralls (active, not prospective thralls) may raise their Faith for 7 XP * current level, to a maximum of 5.
Lores
This rule covers how demon powers interact with people who are neither demons nor pure mortals.
For anything using one game mechanic for demons and another for mortals, treat all non-demons as mortals, unless an exception is listed below.
For anything referring to demon-style immunity to mind control, see '+rules mind control'.
- Celestials 2 (Send Vision), high torment:
- It is a mental assault and can be resisted with appropriate powers.
- The damage is physical and may be soaked by anyone except Mortals and Sorcerer-Psychics.
- Celestials 3 (Pillar of Faith): Only works on demons.
- Death 2 (Decay): Non-demons take lethal instead of agg.
- Death 4 (Extinguish Life): Supers and Mortal+ are treated as demons.
- Flame 2 (Ignite):
- Living bodies have a resistance of 7
- Normal clothing has a resistance of 6
- Vampires have a resistance of (5 minus Generation background)
- Forge 5 (Imbue Object):
- Can only target disembodied souls (non-Risen wraiths, demons without host bodies).
- Targeting a PC counts as a risk 3 action.
- Patterns 5 (Twist Time): Treat all non-demons as mortals.
- Portals 5 (Doorway into Darkness): Treat all non-demons as mortals.
- Radiance 2 (Exalt): When targeting a supernatural action with an extended roll, it only benefits one of those rolls.
- Spirit 4 (Anchor the Soul): Same as Forge 5.
- Transfiguration 5 (Shapechange): Supers and Mortal+ can have Appearance raised above 5.
Mental immunity
- Demons are innately immune to mind control and fear.
- Our ruling is that demons are immune to any power that compels them to direct, specific action.
- Powers can effect a demon's mood, perceptions, and mental effectiveness, but the user of the power cannot direct the demon to take a specific action.
- Also, no power may compel a demon to act against their Nature.
- A Caregiver can't be made to abandon their charge.
- A Judge can't be made to look the other way.
- A Thrill-Seeker can't be made to take it easy.
Revelation
There seems to be some misunderstanding of who/what is exactly immune to various forms of supernatural innate powers. The following is a list of what's what for the races that have such:
Revelation - Each time a demon uses her Faith, mortal observers can make a Perception + Awareness roll to sense the demon's true nature. The difficulty of the roll is 10 minus the total number of Faith points the character spent (or lost) in the scene. If the difficulty reaches 0, all mortals automatically perceive their true nature. Demons can also allow mortals to perceive their true nature without spending Faith, whenever they wish. Finally, if a character invokes her apocalyptic form (see Chapter Seven for details), mortal witnesses automatically suffer the effects of Revelation. (pg. 254-255 DtF)
Staff interprets this as follows:
- Evocations: '+rules awareness' applies as usual, replacing the canon rule.
- Apocalytic forms: See '+rules apocalyptic form'.
- Observers automatically sense that you're supernatural, even if they're immune to the panic roll, and even if you don't manifest anything physically obvious (e.g. wings, extra arms).
- Observers need Lore Demon 3+ in order to reliably identify what type of supernatural you are.
- There may be NPC observers! (+rules in public) Their level of skepticism is left to player discretion. (DtF 253)
- The following are immune to the panic roll:
- All Demons (Obviously)
- All Wraiths/Risen
- All Shifters
- All Mages
- All Vampires
- All Changelings
- All Ghouls
- Sorcerers with at least level 3 in any numina.
- Psychics with at least level 3 in any numina.
- All Possessed
- All Kinfolk
- All Kinain
Thralls
The following can be thralled by a demon:
- Mortal (obviously)
- Mortal+ (Sorcerer-Psychic, Ghoul, Kinfolk, and/or Kinain)
- Mage
- Shifter
Thralls may raise their Faith with XP. (+rules faith)
Being thralled by a NPC demon:
- Must take Mentor 5 to represent them
- They draw as much Faith as possible (half rounded down), rest can be used to empower the thrall
Thralls vs. vampiric stuff (WW8201/69)
- Vampires cannot be thralls. Embracing a thrall breaks the pact.
- Ghouls / blood-bonded non-vampires can be thralled. Thralls can be ghouled / blood-bonded. These do not break each other. Any resulting conflict of interest is the target's problem to deal with ICly.
Shifter thralls (WW8201/70-71)
- "Mantle of madness and despair" is interpreted as equivalent to the Harano Prone flaw (Silver Fangs 85). If thrall already has that flaw, they suffer immediate Harano (Players Guide to Garou 226).
- "Other werewolves are able to detect" etc. is interpreted as "Other werewolves may recognize Harano symptoms and react accordingly".
- All Willpower rolls are +2 difficulty, fail a Willpower roll = lose a temp Willpower, botch = lose a perm Willpower. Perm Willpower drops to 0 = frenzy until killed or pact revoked.
- Fera work the same as Garou, except the following for which +2 is reduced to +1.
- Bubasti (WW3807/58-59 "devotees of all things arcane" ... "magical affinity"; WW3037/52 "prefer to uncover ancient or forbidden lore, magical enigmas")
- Others at staff discretion (+request with a book/page reference)
Miscellaneous
- Good Right Hook
- Limited to bashing damage or high-torment apocalyptic forms.
- May be taken by non-demons.
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