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This is an explanation of why the things in '+liststats not-allowed' are there. The list below is not necessarily complete, and '+liststats not-allowed' is not by any means an exhaustive list of disallowed things.
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This is an explanation of why the things in '+liststats not-allowed' are there.
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* Some of these may not be in '+liststats not-allowed' due to code issues.
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* Note: Some of these are not in '+liststats not-allowed' due to being code issues. The list here is more exhaustive than on the mush itself.
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* Neither of these is an exhaustive list of disallowed things.
  
 
=Available in some other form=
 
=Available in some other form=
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| '''Addictive Blood''' || This is a First Edition Merit.  Use Flaw - Potent Blood instead.
 
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| '''Aptitude''' (Computer, Mechanical) || Use the Ability Aptitude merit instead.
 
| '''Aptitude''' (Computer, Mechanical) || Use the Ability Aptitude merit instead.
 
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| '''Baby Face''' || Use the Blush of Health merit instead.
 
| '''Baby Face''' || Use the Blush of Health merit instead.
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| '''Changeling: the Enchanted stats''' || See below for details.
 
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| '''Construct''' || Use the Home Base background instead.
 
| '''Construct''' || Use the Home Base background instead.
 
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| '''Corporation CEO, Nightclub''' || Use the Resources background instead.
 
| '''Corporation CEO, Nightclub''' || Use the Resources background instead.
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| '''Database''' || For Hunters Only (use the Secondary Knowledge - Computer Hacking, or Influence actions)
 
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| '''Derangement (flaw)''' || Use Deranged instead.
 
| '''Derangement (flaw)''' || Use Deranged instead.
 
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| '''Faerie Blood''' || This is in reference to 2nd Edition.  Use the Kinain merit instead. We do allow the Background from C20.
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| '''Detective License''' || From Orpheus.  Use the Merit: ''License To..'' instead
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| '''Empathic Healing''' || Use Healing or Psychic Healing instead.
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| '''Followers''' || Use Retainers instead.
 
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| '''Hearth Wisdom''' || Overly broad. Use the Lore of (specific supernatural type) knowledge(s) and/or other relevant abilities instead.
 
| '''Hearth Wisdom''' || Overly broad. Use the Lore of (specific supernatural type) knowledge(s) and/or other relevant abilities instead.
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| '''Klaivaskar''' || Use Klaive Dueling instead.
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| '''Lang Chinese''' || Use Lang Cantonese, Lang Mandarin, Lang Middle Chinese, and/or Lang Old Chinese instead.
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| '''Lang Gaelic''' || Use Lang Scots Gaelic, Lang Irish, and/or Lang Ancient Celtic instead.
 
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| '''Mansion''' || Use the Resources background instead.
 
| '''Mansion''' || Use the Resources background instead.
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| '''Religion''' || Use the Theology knowledge instead.
 
| '''Religion''' || Use the Theology knowledge instead.
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| '''Steel Nerves''' || For Hunters Only. (Use the Merit: ''Iron Will'' instead)
 
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| '''Ties''' (Church, Corporate, Judicial, Media, Police, Political, Underworld) || Use the Influence background instead.
 
| '''Ties''' (Church, Corporate, Judicial, Media, Police, Political, Underworld) || Use the Influence background instead.
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| '''Balefire Flux''' || Overpowered.
 
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| '''Blase''' || Overpowered.
 
| '''Blase''' || Overpowered.
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| '''Brain Eating''' || Overpowered.
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| '''Bystanders''' || For Hunters Only
 
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| '''Camarilla authority''' (Bullyboy, Domain, Elysium Regular, Harpy, Holder of Office, Primogen, Primogen Friendship, Sheriff's Friend) || Need to negotiate these things with PC leaders.
 
| '''Camarilla authority''' (Bullyboy, Domain, Elysium Regular, Harpy, Holder of Office, Primogen, Primogen Friendship, Sheriff's Friend) || Need to negotiate these things with PC leaders.
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| '''Charmed Existence, Lucky, Self-confident''' || Revised is already more generous about dice rolls.
 
| '''Charmed Existence, Lucky, Self-confident''' || Revised is already more generous about dice rolls.
 
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| '''Clan Friendship''' || This does not work well in a mush environment.
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| '''Clan Friendship''' || This does not work well in a MU* environment.
 
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| '''Endurance of Heimdall''' || Overpowered.
 
| '''Endurance of Heimdall''' || Overpowered.
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| '''Everyman''' || For Hunters Only
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| '''Exposure''' || For Hunters Only
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| '''Fast Learner''' || Overpowered.
 
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| '''Geomancy''' (includes Ward Magic) || Old book, no guidance as to who should have access.
 
| '''Geomancy''' (includes Ward Magic) || Old book, no guidance as to who should have access.
 
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| '''Honored Birthright''' || Does not work with C20 Kinain rules.  This also applies to all Merits/Flaws/Backgrounds only from Changeling: The Enchanted.
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| '''Grace Under Pressue''' || For Hunters Only
 
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| '''Lore Weaver''' || Not a large enough faction to need its own Lore.
 
| '''Lore Weaver''' || Not a large enough faction to need its own Lore.
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| '''Military Force''' || Overpowered. Can be handwaved in PRPs if all participants agree.
 
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| '''Mistreated Minority''' || Players are mostly non-racist reducing the impact of this flaw, those with related flaws (e.g. Hatred) will treat your character accordingly.
 
| '''Mistreated Minority''' || Players are mostly non-racist reducing the impact of this flaw, those with related flaws (e.g. Hatred) will treat your character accordingly.
 
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| '''Military Force''' || Overpowered. Can be handwaved in PRPs if all participants agree.
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| '''Naming''' || Overpowered, at least the higher levels.
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| '''New Arrival''', '''New Kid''' || These flaws are quickly remedied, plus most new PCs are this at first.
 
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| '''Naming''' || Overpowered, at least the higher levels.
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| '''Path of Warding''' || Dark Ages, overpowered at level 3 (Runes of Power).
 
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| '''New Arrival''' || This flaw is quickly remedied, plus most new PCs are new arrivals.
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| '''Probationary Member''', '''Probationary Sect Member''' || This does not work well in a MU* environment.
 
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| '''New Kid''' || This flaw is quickly remedied, plus most new PCs are the new kid.
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| '''Rising Star''' || This merit does not work well in in a MU* environment. Suggest you take mundane abilities to help.
 
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| '''Path of Warding''' || Dark Ages, overpowered at level 3 (Runes of Power).
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| '''Sing Down Selene''' || Homebrew from another game.
 
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| '''Probationary Sect Member''' || This does not work well in a mush environment.
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| '''Stormwarden''' || See [[Rules_Entries#Avatar_Storm|+rules avatar storm]] - this merit does not work with the house rules.
 
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| '''True Gypsy''' || Depends on the Gypsy book (super racist, will not be added).
 
| '''True Gypsy''' || Depends on the Gypsy book (super racist, will not be added).
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| '''Uncontrolled Lust''' || Excessive horniness is not a personality.
 
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| '''Vitreous Path''' || Restricted to Nagaraja (nearly extinct, only a few dozen left in the world, thus not available as PCs).
 
| '''Vitreous Path''' || Restricted to Nagaraja (nearly extinct, only a few dozen left in the world, thus not available as PCs).
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=Changeling: the Enchanted=
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These stats are generally superseded by Changeling 20th or house rules. Additional substitutes may be allowed, please submit a +request.
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==Backgrounds==
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{| class="wikitable"
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| '''Chimera Companion''' || Use Companion instead.
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| '''Dross''' || Use the house-ruled version instead.
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| '''Faerie Blood''' || Covered by Subrace = Kinain, or the Kinain merit. The version of Faerie Blood from Changeling 20th is allowed.
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| '''Faerie Mentor''' || Use Mentor instead.
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| '''Feth Fiada''' || Unneeded due to house rules.
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| '''Kenning''' || Use Kenning talent instead.
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==Fae Gifts==
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{| class="wikitable"
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| '''An-da-shealladh''' || Unneeded due to house rules.
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| '''The Bardic Gift''' || Not used.
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| '''Fith-fath''' || Not used.
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| '''Honored Birthright''' || Not used. Changeling 20th lets kinain pick one birthright of their kith.
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| '''Nine Lives''' || Not used.
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| '''Parted Mists''' || Not used.
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| '''Riastradh''' || Use Berserker merit instead.
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| '''The Second Sight''' || Not used.
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| '''Spearman's Shield''' || Not used.
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| '''Taghairm''', '''Taibhsear''' || Use Medium merit instead.
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| '''Weakened Mists''' || Unneeded due to house rules.
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==Flaws==
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{| class="wikitable"
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| '''Enchanted Blood''' || Not used.
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| '''Geas''' || Use the Changeling 20th version instead.
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| '''Inherited Frailty''' || Not used.
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| '''Iron's Curse''' || Not used.
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| '''Mark of the Blood''' || Not used.
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| '''Ravaged''' || Not used.
 
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Latest revision as of 13:44, 24 September 2024

This is an explanation of why the things in '+liststats not-allowed' are there.

  • Some of these may not be in '+liststats not-allowed' due to code issues.
  • Neither of these is an exhaustive list of disallowed things.

Available in some other form

Stat Explanation
Addictive Blood This is a First Edition Merit. Use Flaw - Potent Blood instead.
Aptitude (Computer, Mechanical) Use the Ability Aptitude merit instead.
Baby Face Use the Blush of Health merit instead.
Changeling: the Enchanted stats See below for details.
Construct Use the Home Base background instead.
Corporation CEO, Nightclub Use the Resources background instead.
Database For Hunters Only (use the Secondary Knowledge - Computer Hacking, or Influence actions)
Derangement (flaw) Use Deranged instead.
Detective License From Orpheus. Use the Merit: License To.. instead
Empathic Healing Use Healing or Psychic Healing instead.
Followers Use Retainers instead.
Hearth Wisdom Overly broad. Use the Lore of (specific supernatural type) knowledge(s) and/or other relevant abilities instead.
Klaivaskar Use Klaive Dueling instead.
Lang Chinese Use Lang Cantonese, Lang Mandarin, Lang Middle Chinese, and/or Lang Old Chinese instead.
Lang Gaelic Use Lang Scots Gaelic, Lang Irish, and/or Lang Ancient Celtic instead.
Mansion Use the Resources background instead.
Poisons Use the Toxicology knowledge instead.
Rank This would be for United States senators and the like. Shifters, use Shifter Rank instead. Pentex employees, use Pentex Rank.
RD Data Overly broad. Use the Lore of (specific supernatural type) knowledge(s) instead.
Religion Use the Theology knowledge instead.
Steel Nerves For Hunters Only. (Use the Merit: Iron Will instead)
Ties (Church, Corporate, Judicial, Media, Police, Political, Underworld) Use the Influence background instead.
Totem (merit) Use the Totem background instead.

Not allowed at all

Stat Explanation
Balefire Flux Overpowered.
Blase Overpowered.
Brain Eating Overpowered.
Bystanders For Hunters Only
Camarilla authority (Bullyboy, Domain, Elysium Regular, Harpy, Holder of Office, Primogen, Primogen Friendship, Sheriff's Friend) Need to negotiate these things with PC leaders.
Charmed Existence, Lucky, Self-confident Revised is already more generous about dice rolls.
Clan Friendship This does not work well in a MU* environment.
Endurance of Heimdall Overpowered.
Everyman For Hunters Only
Exposure For Hunters Only
Fast Learner Overpowered.
Geomancy (includes Ward Magic) Old book, no guidance as to who should have access.
Grace Under Pressue For Hunters Only
Lore Weaver Not a large enough faction to need its own Lore.
Military Force Overpowered. Can be handwaved in PRPs if all participants agree.
Mistreated Minority Players are mostly non-racist reducing the impact of this flaw, those with related flaws (e.g. Hatred) will treat your character accordingly.
Naming Overpowered, at least the higher levels.
New Arrival, New Kid These flaws are quickly remedied, plus most new PCs are this at first.
Path of Warding Dark Ages, overpowered at level 3 (Runes of Power).
Probationary Member, Probationary Sect Member This does not work well in a MU* environment.
Rising Star This merit does not work well in in a MU* environment. Suggest you take mundane abilities to help.
Sing Down Selene Homebrew from another game.
Stormwarden See +rules avatar storm - this merit does not work with the house rules.
True Gypsy Depends on the Gypsy book (super racist, will not be added).
Uncontrolled Lust Excessive horniness is not a personality.
Vitreous Path Restricted to Nagaraja (nearly extinct, only a few dozen left in the world, thus not available as PCs).

Changeling: the Enchanted

These stats are generally superseded by Changeling 20th or house rules. Additional substitutes may be allowed, please submit a +request.

Backgrounds

Stat Explanation
Chimera Companion Use Companion instead.
Dross Use the house-ruled version instead.
Faerie Blood Covered by Subrace = Kinain, or the Kinain merit. The version of Faerie Blood from Changeling 20th is allowed.
Faerie Mentor Use Mentor instead.
Feth Fiada Unneeded due to house rules.
Kenning Use Kenning talent instead.

Fae Gifts

Stat Explanation
An-da-shealladh Unneeded due to house rules.
The Bardic Gift Not used.
Fith-fath Not used.
Honored Birthright Not used. Changeling 20th lets kinain pick one birthright of their kith.
Nine Lives Not used.
Parted Mists Not used.
Riastradh Use Berserker merit instead.
The Second Sight Not used.
Spearman's Shield Not used.
Taghairm, Taibhsear Use Medium merit instead.
Weakened Mists Unneeded due to house rules.

Flaws

Stat Explanation
Enchanted Blood Not used.
Geas Use the Changeling 20th version instead.
Inherited Frailty Not used.
Iron's Curse Not used.
Mark of the Blood Not used.
Ravaged Not used.
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