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<center><font color=blue style="font-size: 20pt;">How to build a Shifter Fetish!</font></center>
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* [[Fera Renown]]
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* [[Renown|Garou Renown]]
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* [[Hengeyokai Renown]]
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* [[BSD Renown]]
  
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It only looks complicated at first, but it gets easier the more you do it, just like riding a bike! We're going to take this step by step, first using an existing fetish found in a book as an example. Other examples will get progressively more complicated, so just start up here at the top, take it one step at a time, and you'll be just fine!
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* A [[Renown/Guide|Guide]] to submitting Renown Requests.
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* A [[Renown_FAQ|Renown FAQ]] if you have questions about the system.
  
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We're using the [[Creating_Magical_Items#Fetishes|Fetish Creation Chart]] found here on the Wiki, and breaking it down step by step. To make a fetish, you will roll Wits + Rituals vs 10, so the goal of the creation process is to lower that difficulty as much as possible with some other rolls first and give you the best chance of success when you make that final roll. We're going to go through all the steps and options first so that you understand what you're getting yourself into, and then we'll show you how to set up your +request and complete your job.
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'''Note!''' If you're a kinfolk and you've accomplished a deed from the shifter renown chart that corresponds to your kin type, but you don't see it here, you can submit the deed at 1/4th of what a shifter would receive for the same action. Round down.
  
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'''Note!''' If your kinfolk's Faction on +sheet is neither Gaian nor Wyrm, then they don't get renown.
  
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<font style="font-size: 15pt;">'''These are the tools you're going to need for a basic fetish creation:'''</font>
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===Combat and Encounters===
  
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'''Rite of Summoning''' (Required; Your fetish needs a spirit, so you need to be able to summon it)
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'''Rite of the Fetish''' (Required; Obviously you're gonna need this rite)
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===Mystical Events===
  
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'''Leadership/Expression/Performance(/Intimidation, for Wyrmies)''' (Optional but highly recommended that you have at least one of those Abilities)
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'''Call to Duty''' (Rank 2 Gift, optional but recommended)
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===Caern Activities===
  
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'''Rite of Cleansing''' (Optional but highly recommended)
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=A Simple Fetish=
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===Relation with Garou and Kinfolk===
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We're going to make an Eternal Waterskin, from the book Hammer and Klaive, page 62. Here's the fetish as it's written in the book:
 
  
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{{tab}}The Eternal Waterskin most likely began as a Silent Strider fetish going back to their earliest days of travel. At present, though, it's a general fetish. It simply proved too useful for other tribes not to create their own versions. Tribes like the Bone Gnawers, Glass Walkers, Silver Fangs, and Uktena all have or once had desert-faring members; while the Fianna and Get of Fenris possessed sea-faring cultures that likewise found it useful.<br>
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|Serving your tribe faithfully (for a half-decade)
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{{tab}}The fetish is a waterskin decorated with various glyphs and then bound with a water spirit. When activated, the water spirit fills the waterskin once more. Garou with one of these fetishes can thus cross great distances without needing to find a water source for weeks.
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===Manners and Behavior===
  
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Here we have all the information we need. It's a container for holding water, and it's bound with a Water spirit. ICly speaking, this can be some fun RP! You gotta find or make the container, dress it up and make it nice for the spirit, go on a nice walk to find a summoning spot.
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This is what staff wants to see in the body of your +request. Name, Level and Gnosis rating, a description of what it is/what it does, and what spirit you're sticking in there. We need to understand you're trying to accomplish, basically.
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We're on Step 2 of the [[Creating_Magical_Items#Fetishes|Fetish Creation Chart]]. You'll see it lists the ''Rite of Cleansing'' and ''Research'' there on the table. These are options to help lower the difficulty of the final Wits + Rituals roll. You can choose to do one of them, both of them, or none of them, it's entirely up to you.
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|{{tab}}'''Research''' ''(rolling Mentor or Kinfolk vs 8, or Allies or Contacts vs 9)'' is a thing that takes time. Look at the dots you have in the stat, and you can CHOOSE how many of those dice you want to use. Each die you choose to use for this roll is 1  real-life week's worth of time spent asking around, looking through books, searching out historical tales or whatever else you can think of for actually researching the item.  Each success you score is -1 difficulty to your final roll. If you aren't TOO scared of the final roll, then just skip the Research and go for broke!<br><br>
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|{{tab}}'''Rite of Cleansing''' is a common Level 1 Rite with a simple roll. This is just preparing the item for a spirit; think of it like cleaning an apartment really well before you rent it out to a prospective co-worker you really want to partner with. It's not mandatory but it's really nice of you to do and can make the spirit very happy. '''''If you have this rite, then you should definitely do this roll''''', it's simple, quick unlike Research (the rite takes 10 minutes to perform ICly), and it can net you a large drop in difficulty on your ending roll.<br>
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{{tab}}The roll is Charisma + Rituals vs 7 (6 if performed at dawn), and you need to get at least one success more than the level of the fetish you're trying to make. In this case, the Eternal Waterskin is Level 1, so we need at least 2 success. Every success OVER the level of the item is a -1 difficulty to the to the final  roll.<br><br>
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As stated, the Rite of Cleansing is a great option to use no matter what. Even if this was a very high level fetish, you may as well try it.
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Source: Kinfolk: Unsung Heroes book - Page 63
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The waterskin has presumably been prepared either through Research, the Rite of Cleansing, or both. Now it's time to summon our spirit and call it to us. This covers steps 3 and 4 of the [[Creating_Magical_Items#Fetishes|Fetish Creation Chart]].
 
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We know what spirit we want for this: a water spirit. Keep it simple, and go with a Water Elemental. If you click this handy link to the [[Spirits_by_type|Spirits By Type]] page, and do a quick word search for 'Water Elemental', you'll find it's located in the core Werewolf: the Apocalypse Revised book on page 300, so have a look there real quick. All we need to know is its Willpower. (The Wiki will eventually have that information for you.)
 
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Having to pierce the Gauntlet and all the usual rigamarol with the Rite of Summoning is handwaved, so don't worry about it. We also assume that you're taking your time to make sure you do this right, and making a day of it. The assumed hours mean that you just roll your Gnosis vs 3 and this step is done!
 
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If you get LESS than 3 successes, this mean the spirit isn't happy about the summoning, and raises your final roll's difficulty by 1. We don't want that! The goal is to LOWER that difficulty, so if you have any doubts at all about your ability to get 3 or more successes on this roll, then you're going to want to spend a Willpower.
 
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Now we're looking at Step 5 on the [[Creating_Magical_Items#Fetishes|Fetish Creation Chart]]. There's a lot of options on here, you can choose any of them, and you can choose more than one of them, it's up to you as to what makes sense. We'll detail them out as to what they do and whether or not they're worth a try.
 
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This is essentially your interactions with the spirit after you've summoned it. You're negotiating with it, showing off the cool vessel you've made, you're making promises to act a certain way or making sacrifices to get the spirit to agree to possess the item and make it a fetish. ALL of the things listed in this section are meant to entice and cajole the spirit (or threaten it!) into bonding with the vessel and becoming a fetish. You pick and choose from this list what you want to try, hoping for the best.<br><br>
 
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|{{tab}}'''Spend ''permanent'' Gnosis:''' If you spend a permanent Gnosis, you will get -2 to the difficulty of the final roll. If you only have 1 or 2 Gnosis as it is, then it's not an option that's off the table. If you do NOT want to have to buy back your Gnosis at 2x current rating in cost, then do not use this option.
 
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|{{tab}}'''Direct Threat:''' No roll required, produces up to -4 difficulty to your final roll OR an automatic failure. This is not an option you're going to want to use save in the most specific of circumstances, such as making a Bane Skin maybe. If you're a Gaian and you say "get in the container or I'll beat your face in", the friendly water spirit is going to instantly be insulted and pike off. If you have your pack or something there to force the issue and keep the spirit from leaving as well as the clout to beat it into submission and follow up on the threat, you can get that -4 difficulty but at the cost of a Cursed Fetish. There's no way that water elemental is going to serve you kindly or faithfully after what you did. This also applies to Wyrmies! It seems like the way to do it, but it's not, and will come up with the same result even when you're working with Banes. Most likely, you'll always skip this option.<br>
 
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When you do the rolls from these steps and tally up your points, you'll find out how low you get to drop the difficulty of the final roll. If you've invested your XP wisely, if you've spent a willpower here and there when you doubted yourself, then you've probably dropped the roll from difficulty 10 to something MUCH more manageable.
 
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Now that you understand what all those steps in the [[Creating_Magical_Items#Fetishes|Fetish Creation Chart]] are and how the whole thing sort of works, let's try and put it into some practice.
 
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'''Do yourself a favor, open a wordpad and save it as "Fetish Formulas" or something similar. Do all the work in this file first where you can see what the hell you're doing and not accidentally bork up your request. Also, if you want to make another of something you made in the past, it's a hell of a lot easier to C&P than it is to start from scratch!'''
 
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Writing up your +request to make a fetish incorporates everything we talked about in the previous section, so let's take it step by step.  You're going to write all this stuff out in your wordpad while going down the [[Creating_Magical_Items#Fetishes|Fetish Creation Chart]] so that you can submit the entire thing, chosen steps and all, all in one fell swoop. It's a lot of work at first, but you're setting up your own order of operations. It needs to be understandable to staff, yes, but doing it this way is largely for YOUR benefit. Once you submit the request, you'll do all of the rolls in the same order as in the job on your screen. Do that, and you will not get lost or miss anything, it really does take the stress out of things.
 
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Start off with a Hello, cause why not? We're people too! This is just like Step 1 from the Simple Fetish section above. We need to know what you're making and how it works. For this fetish, we'll just copy and paste it right out of the book.
 
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|{{tab}}Hello! I'd like to make an Eternal Waterskin, from H&K page 62. I'm going to use a Water Elemental from WW:tA Revised page 300. Here's the details:<br><br>
 
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{{tab}}The fetish is a waterskin decorated with various glyphs and then bound with a water spirit. When activated, the water spirit fills the waterskin once more. Garou with one of these fetishes can thus cross great distances without needing to find a water source for weeks.<br>
 
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{{tab}}%R%THello! I'd like to make an Eternal Waterskin, from H&K page 62. I'm going to use a Water Elemental from WW:tA Revised page 300. Here's the details:%R%REternal Waterskin (H&K pg62)%RLevel 1, Gnosis 6%R%RThe Eternal Waterskin most likely began as a Silent Strider fetish going back to their earliest days of travel. At present, though, it's a general fetish. It simply proved too useful for other tribes not to create their own versions. Tribes like the Bone Gnawers, Glass Walkers, Silver Fangs, and Uktena all have or once had desert-faring members; while the Fianna and Get of Fenris possessed sea-faring cultures that likewise found it useful.%RThe fetish is a waterskin decorated with various glyphs and then bound with a water spirit. When activated, the water spirit fills the waterskin once more. Garou with one of these fetishes can thus cross great distances without needing to find a water source for weeks.%R<br>
 
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We're starting out at Step 2 of the [[Creating_Magical_Items#Fetishes|Fetish Creation Chart]]. For example's sake, I'm going to pick and choose as we go along as if I was a young Cliath Garou trying to make this fetish. As you move down the chart, just list each step and roll you have to make. This keeps you and staff both on track. Jot them down like this:
 
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|{{tab}}* Rite of Cleansing - At dawn - Charisma + Rituals vs 6 - (Spending 1 Willpower) (-1 diff to Fetish rite per success over fetish's level)<br>
 
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As a Cliath, I cant do Call to Duty, and as a Gaian I've decided that friendliness is the way to go. I wasn't feeling too good about my chances even with my pack agreeing to help, so I added a minor Taboo to help give me an edge.
 
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{{tab}}%R* Rite of Cleansing - At dawn - Charisma + Rituals vs 6 - (Spending 1 Willpower) (-1 diff to Fetish rite per success over fetish's level)%R* Pierce the Gauntlet - Handwaved%R* Rite of Summoning - Gnosis vs 3%R%R**Water Elemental - WP 4 - WW:tA Revised pg300%R* Clever Persuasion - Charisma + Leadership vs 4 (Spirit's WP)(Spending 1 WP)%R* -1 Taboo: Must pray in praise to the Water Gods out loud while activating or the Eternal Waterskin will not fill.%R* 5 PC Assistants - Eric, Kenny, Kyle, Towlie, and Chef have all agreed to help with this, and all have Rituals 3%R%R*Rite of the Fetish - Wits + Rituals vs 10 -?%R<br>
 
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That wasn't too painful, was it? When you're looking at the bare-bones  [[Creating_Magical_Items#Fetishes|Fetish Creation Chart]], when you're new to the process, or your character isn't mystically beefy yet stat-wise, this whole thing can be intimidating and anxiety making. Now that you know what you're doing, what the options you have mean and why you'd choose which, it makes things much easier and less taxing.
 
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Revision as of 19:49, 3 August 2019

  • A Guide to submitting Renown Requests.
  • A Renown FAQ if you have questions about the system.

Note! If you're a kinfolk and you've accomplished a deed from the shifter renown chart that corresponds to your kin type, but you don't see it here, you can submit the deed at 1/4th of what a shifter would receive for the same action. Round down.

Note! If your kinfolk's Faction on +sheet is neither Gaian nor Wyrm, then they don't get renown.

Combat and Encounters

Activity Glory Honor Wisdom
Extreme valor in the face of death 1 1
Surviving an Incapacitating Wound 1

Mystical Events

Activity Glory Honor Wisdom Comments
Exposing Wyrm-tainted Kinfolk 1
Exposing a Garou as Wyrm-tainted 4
Having and following a prophetic vision 2
Discovering fetishes, talens, long-lost lore 1 to 3 Discovering, not creating
Being asked to participate in a moot or rite 1 2

Caern Activities

Activity Glory Honor Wisdom
Being asked to help guard a caern 1
Dying in defense of a caern 3 3
Refusing to fight in a caern's defense -3

Relation with Garou and Kinfolk

Activity Glory Honor Wisdom
Serving your tribe faithfully (for a half-decade) 1 1
Maintaining good relations with other Kin 1
Bearing Garou offspring 1 1
Refusing to mate -4

Manners and Behavior

Activity Glory Honor Wisdom
Answering a request for sage advice 1
Protecting Garou not of your tribe 1
Rudeness -1 -1
Speaking badly of Garou -3
Acting without honor -1 to -5

Source: Kinfolk: Unsung Heroes book - Page 63

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